1. Warming up with two examples of the first step of the hero's journey:
As you watch, please respond to the following questions in your notes:
Which characters appear to be following this heroic pattern in The Kite Runner? How so?
How has the separation (physical or emotional) affected these characters’ self-perception, behavior, and motivation? Please include at least one specific passage from the novel to support your response.
2. Offering you 90 seconds of feedback on yesterday's fishbowl
3. Entering Fishbowl #3: Chapters 14, 15, and 16 of The Kite Runner
HW:
1. For THURSDAY: Read and annotate Chapters 17 and 18. Aim to read at least the first chapter tonight since we won't have in-class reading time tomorrow (we don't have any in-class time tomorrow).
2. For FRIDAY: Study the first ten Kite Runner words for a short assessment.
The disney clips can relate to the kite runner because Amir just lost his dad and is working to overcome that loss.
ReplyDeleteThe Lion King connects to Kite Runner bc Simba lived because his dad sacrificed his life and Amir is alive because of his mom who died giving birth to him.
ReplyDeleteI agree both of them sacrificed themselves for their children.
DeleteThey both lose parents and meaningful characters in the story and then they follow the hero's journey and overcome challenges.
ReplyDeleteAfter Baba dies, Amir feels like he needs to become independent and learn to live without rules. Its the same for Simba and Nemo.
ReplyDeletei agree with this you'll either grow from it or let it break you
DeleteEverything was okay at the beginning of the book until Hassan went off to get the blue kite just like how in Finding Nemo Marlin was playing with his wife until the big fish attacked their home.
ReplyDeleteIn the Lion King and The Kite Runner they both lose their fathers and not only is that a connection by itself, it shows that both Simba and Amir are in the process of the hero's journey and they have to overcome the death of their fathers and use it to fuel their motive to do great things and get revenge in some way.
ReplyDeleteI can relate The Lion King to The Kite Runner, because both main characters feel like they could've changed the outcome for example Mufasa's death and the rape. Both main characters could've fixed things but instead they have to deal with the guilt.
ReplyDeleteI agree with this. Nicely done.
DeleteI agree with this as well because bof kids who were involved in something tragic feel guilty
DeleteA connection between the clips and the kite runner is that both of them deal with tragic events. For Simba and Nemo they both lost their parents which drove them to their adventures. For Amir I think it is what he witnessed with Hassan and that's what is driving him back to Afghanistan.
ReplyDeleteI agree, I think all of these characters journeys were offset by their loss. For example Amir goes back to Afghanistan because he lost his father, he is losing Rahim Khan and he wants to make amends with Hassan.
DeleteWhen Baba dies it leads Amir to have that in his mind with him and the same thing happened in the clips because now that experience will stick with them.
ReplyDeleteOne connection that I read in The Kite Runner and I saw in the video clips was about how similar all of the fathers were, in The Kite Runner Baba was a great man who raised Amir up well while in Nemo his father risked his life to save him and in The Lion King Mufasa saved his son's life. All of these clips/book have similar fathers.
ReplyDeleteThe main characters all lose their best friends. Marlin loses his wife, Amir loses Hassan/Hassan loses Amir and Symba loses his friend Nala. They all overcome this loss overtime but at some point in the story it comes back to haunt them.
ReplyDeleteKion in the lion king is probably thinking that he is the reason for his father's death, and that connects to the Kite Runner because Amir believed that it is his fault that his mother died, but that's certainly not the case.
ReplyDeleteThe Lion King and The Kite Runner both lose their fathers. This shows Simba and Amir going through the Hero's Journey, and how they must over come the death of their loved one and rebound from it.
ReplyDeleteIn the disney movies the parent is killed when the character is at a young age and in the Kite Runner Amir loses his mom when he is born.
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my relation to the film and the book is that there both showing change and trauma but an after story that makes every thing go together an shape the characters.
ReplyDeleteboth of the clips remind me of how Amir loses Hassan at the begining of the book but instead of death Hassan and Ali and left, and then Baba later in the book.
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In both an important parent figure in their life dies and they have to grow up without them.
ReplyDeletei agree with this
DeleteJust like in "The Kite Runner" Amir loses his father just like Simba did.
ReplyDeleteThe Kite runner relates to these clips because the parents, Baba, Coral, and Mufasa, all sacrifice themselves for other people. Baba protects the woman on the truck, and fights for Amir to have a good life, taking them to California. Mufasa and Coral both die trying to protect their children.
ReplyDeletethis is facts bc all the parebts put their kids lives before their own
DeleteThe Kite Runner relates to these Disney clips because everyone dealt with loss. Marlin lost his wife and most of his kids, Simba lost his dad, and Amir has lost his dad, Hassan, the hope of ever having a child, and from the looks of it he is about to lose Rahim Kahn.
ReplyDeleteyup i agree
DeleteI think that both of the fathers in the disney clips do anything to help out their child and in the kite runner one example of something Baba did for amir is when Amir asked baba to ask the generals daughter to marriage.
ReplyDeleteThe Disney films connect to the Kite Runner because both of the characters in the clips have to suffer some sort of setback or tragedy that the have to overcome, just like Amir will have to do after his dad passed away. Simba in The Lion King also tends to blame himself for how his father passed away just like how Amir blames himself for how his mom passed away. These are some obstacles that they have to learn to forgive themselves for and grow from.
ReplyDeleteI agree, I think Amir might have also blamed himself for his father's death. He might have blamed himself because he didn't tell anyone about Babas cancer and he didn't try harder to take Baba to the doctor
DeleteI agree with this. Adding onto this they are also connected through the relationships that they have had with the people that they lost. For example after Amir and Baba left Kabul they had a strengthened relationship until Baba dies. Simba and Mufasa's relationship was obviously very strong and same with Coral and merlin's relationship.
DeleteAmir's mother died giving birth to him so he believes that her death was his fault. Simba also believes that he was also responsible for his dad's death.
ReplyDeleteGood connection to earlier in the book, I forgot about tha.
DeleteWhat makes a main character a "hero" is that they get stronger through loss. Nemo, never knew his mother (like Hassan, too), and he feels a sense of loss because of it. Simba lost his father and blames himself because of it. This is similar to Amir's relationship with his father, even before he died. Amir felt a loss because as a child, he never got on well with his father. He grew stronger because of that.
ReplyDeleteI agree with this, Amir most most likely felt like he didn't have parents when he was a kid. When he and Baba moved to America he started bonding more with Baba and I think his sense of loss might have started fading.
DeleteI also think that Nemo relates to Hassan because Nemo was made fun of for his small fin just as Hassan was made fun of for the fact that he is a Hazara
DeleteIn the two clips we watched it corresponds with this calm view in the beginning of the films and of the Kite Runner to a massive shift in the plot. Once dramatic events took place including the death of a parent in the flim and the harsher event taking place in the Kite Runner they characters begin their real journey. They have set out to discover something.
ReplyDeleteHow do you guys think Hassan's death is going to affect Amir in the long term
ReplyDeleteI feel Amir will have to live with all of the guilt and embarrassment that has built up.
DeleteI agree with Bo because Amir will go through his whole life remembering how he could have helped Hassan and will live with this guilt that he can't fix
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I think that it's going to continue hurting him, until he confronts it.
DeleteI think Amir will feel 10x the regret because he could never apologize or make things right with Hassan
DeleteThe movie clips were similar to the Kite Runner because of the hero's journey. In both of the movie clips the small kids lose a parent trying to save them, and in Kite Runner, Amir loses his mom and his dad.
ReplyDelete"She was home now, he said, home with her family." Pg 210
ReplyDeleteHow can Hassan say that his mom is part of his family when she left him and wasn't around for his entire life?
What defines a family?
i feel like no matter what happens between you and a family member you will always be family and there will always be this unspoken love between you and your family member. A family is the people who raised you, who has been there for you at some point in your life, and that you can call mom dad and many other things.
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DeleteEven though Hassan didn't meet his mother until he was in his twenties, they are still blood related, and based on past events, you can infer that Hassan easily forgives.
DeleteWhy do you guys think in most books or movies the main characters parents die.
ReplyDeleteI think this happens because they always need something to happen to them so they have something to overcome and use to fuel their motives.
DeleteI agree, I think that it helps create the story to have something motivating them and to stick with them.
DeleteThe parents are normally the people who watch over the main character and teach them everything they know. Parents are almost always there to support and help you, which in some ways can restrict a main characters independence. When the main character's parents die, they are forced into independence and they have to learn how to fight and succeed on their own. When the parents pass away, it not only provides the loss in a Hero's Journey, but also gives the main character the independence they need to make something of their lives.
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DeleteYea I agree. Not everything can go perfect in a book you need something tragic to happen to a character and there's something between a kid and their parent that can leave a lasting effect on a reader.
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DeleteIt sets up the hero's journey perfectly, having something happen to someone important in your life is devastating. It also can provide motivation to live out their life.
DeleteHaving the main character's loved one or ones die shows that they have to triumph over that and complete the mission they are set to beat
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ReplyDeleteDo you think it was emotional for Amir to go back to where he grew up with Baba now that he is dead?
ReplyDeleteI believe that Amir must be struggling being back there because it is definitely going to bring back a lot of memories that Amir had with Baba and could hurt him knowing that he can never experience that again.
DeleteI think it's emotional for Amir to return not only because Baba passed away, but because he has made many mistakes and most of his regrets stem from Afghanistan. Everything he went through with Hassan, Asef, and other characters makes Afghanistan a place filled with many memories and it's difficult to overcome everything that took place.
DeleteYes. I don't think he entirely though out going back to Afghanistan because he just sorta jumped onto the idea.
DeleteI believe that returning is Emotional for Amir because Baba died but I also believe that Amir didn't really connect to Baba as much as he would of liked
DeleteChildren seem to be playing a big role in the book right now how Amir can't have kids and how Hassan has a boy. Do you think Hassan's kid will somehow help mend Amir and Hassan's relationship?
ReplyDeleteI feel like Hassans child might fill the hole that Amir has without Hassan and since he is not able to have a child.
Deleteyeah i really think that amir will be touched by hassan's kid. it will open or close a door for him.
DeleteI definitely think that Amir will try to bond with Hassan's Kid because it might help him let go of the day he hurt Hassan. By taking care of Hassan's kid he will be helping Hassan and making amends for his past.
DeleteAmir has to make a severe mental change due to his past experiences. This is implied by the line "There is a way to be good again"
ReplyDeleteI agree. He is going to have to change things around to make his life "good" again.
DeleteDo you believe that Amir is getting better as a person & that he is changing?
ReplyDeleteAmir is going through a lot of change since he has now lost Baba and Hassan and I think that Amir is starting to realize a lot that nothing lasts forever and he now has a lot to face by himself and I think that he will learn to be good again.
DeleteI don't believe Amir is getting better as a person but I think he is getting there but I think when he returns he will become a better person.
DeleteI do believe that he is trying to be better but he hasnt really gotten the chance to do anything really good.
DeleteOn page 183, the author writes, "A month later, Martin called and informed me I was going to be a published novelist." Do you think Baba would regret being so disapproving of Amir in his childhood if he knew Amir was actually successful in his career.
ReplyDeleteI feel Baba would be proud of his son and knowing that he followed his dream and did not let anyone stop him.
DeleteI feel like Baba would have regret doing this to Amir, but i don't think Baba knew that much about Amir's career and how it worked. Baba thinks that a man needs a job that is steady, so he can get money and live under a roof and put food on the table.
DeleteI think that Baba would be proud even though he did not necessarily approve of Amir's career path. Deep down he knew that is what he loved doing.
DeleteI think Baba would be satisfied from that because his whole life he criticized Amir about wanting to have a career in english and when Amir gets successful in that career I think Baba would not be super happy but satisfied
DeleteDreams are such an important part to a novel, if an author decides to include dreams, they are definitely important.
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DeleteIn past novels, Dreams have lead to foreshadowing what the character is going to do. I agree that dreams are important in novels.
DeleteDoes Soraya trust Amir more than Amir trusts Soraya? Does Amir believe that if he told her what happened with Hassan that she would leave him?
ReplyDeleteI do belive that Amir is having a hard time trusting Soraya as much as she trusts him but I think it is just because he thinks that Soraya would think differently about him if she knew what he had done.
DeleteYes, I think that Amir thinks that what he did was a sin by not telling people about what he saw
DeleteDo you think that Amir is afraid of telling Soraya about what happened or the punishments that come with admitting to it?
ReplyDeleteI think he is eager to tell her because of how much she has opened up to him for not knowing each other for a very long time.
DeleteOn page 192, Amir went to the park to clear his mind. "I sat on a bench and watched a man throw a football to his son...I glanced up and saw a pair of kites...They floated high above the trees at the west end of the park."
ReplyDeleteThis walk was supposed to clear Amir's mind, but instead it is bringing back all of Amir's worst memories. Not being able to have a child and watching Hassan get raped. Do you think this made Amir sad and full of regret from being reminded of this, or did he see these reminders and think about how he was glad that he could move past them and still make a good happy life for himself.
Pg 210 "She was home now, home with her family.", says Hassan.
ReplyDeleteDo you think that Hassan's mother relates Hassan and Ali as her family like Hassan references his mother as being in his family?