1. Warming up with a sneak peak of tomorrow and a Quizlet Live review of your F451 words!
2. Unlocking the powerful story behind "Play the man, Master Ridley; we shall this day light such a candle, by God's grace, in England, as I trust shall never be put out."
In whatever medium you're using for your reading journal, please uncover the following:
- What's the story behind that quotation? What's the historical context?
- How does it relate to the society in F451?
4. Wrapping up with kudos, questions, and epiphanies
HW:
1. For TOMORROW: Study for the quiz on F451 List 1 words. Also, bring your book to class.
*Note: The next leadership group (leading us Wednesday after break) will have time tomorrow to meet and prepare their syllabus.*
2. For WEDNESDAY after break: Read and journal through page 88 in F451.
My family. Other than that I wouldn't die for anything.
ReplyDeleteI would definitely sacrifice myself for my family, but also for my friends. My friends are like a second family to me and I would sacrifice myself for them no matter what. I also think that if I fully believed in a cause, I would sacrifice myself for it.
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ReplyDeleteMy friends and family are what I would die for.
ReplyDeleteWhat would have to happen for you to sacrifice yourself? Would you do this for anyone else?
Deletei would sacrifice myself for my family
ReplyDeleteI'm struggling to think of a cause, but I do think that if there was a cause that I couldn't live without, then yes I would die for it.
ReplyDeleteI agree, I had a lot of trouble coming up with a cause at first, but then I decided that my family and friends would definitely be worth sacrificing myself for. I wouldn't want any of them to get hurt or die so I would do everything in my power to stop that from happening.
DeleteI would die for my family and friends.
ReplyDeleteI don't think that I would die for a cause because if your dead you cant contribute to the cause.
ReplyDeleteI would never sacrifice myself for any cause unless it would affect the lives of many other people. I think it's stupid to give your life just because of a certain belief. Life is a beautiful thing and no one should ever give it up.
ReplyDeleteI would sacrifice myself for my family and my religious beliefs.
ReplyDeleteI would not be willing to give up my life for a cause. Not because I think it is stupid to sacrifice your life for a cause, but there is not a cause I care enough about to die for it.
ReplyDeleteHaving all my family and friends taken away from me never being able to see them again to be my cause.
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I think I would sacrifice my life for something if I truly believed in it and fully thought it would be worth it.
ReplyDeleteI don't think that sacrificing yourself would be much helpful to the cause. I think that if you stayed alive and fought for the cause and got multitudes of people to fight for it too then that would have a much better impact than sacrificing your life. So no, I wouldn't sacrifice my life for a cause. Instead, I would fight for it peacefully but meaningful.
ReplyDeleteI feel like lots of ideas and people are worth giving my life up for but in the moment I am really not sure if I would give up my life for a cause. Lots of things are worth more than their perceived value and are worth more than my life but I am not sure if I would end up giving up my life for a cause. Hopefully I would give up my life if the cause was great enough.
ReplyDeleteIf somebody was trying to take away my freedom, I would be willing to give up my life to stop whoever was trying to take it away.
ReplyDeleteI think this is a really good point. In the book Montag says "This isn't going to be easy but we need to do it together." (64) He says this to Mildred after she finds all of his hidden books. In a way Montag is fighting for freedom to read and have more rights in his futuristic society, and I think many other people are as well.
DeleteDeporting, if someone came to my house and said that they were going to take my family away I would sacrifice my life.
ReplyDeleteThe only thing I'd die for is my family
ReplyDeleteFor me I really don't have a cause that I believe. If i really had to think of one it would probably be about freedom if someone where to take away my freedom I might do something to go against it.
ReplyDeletei would die for my family and my friends any day because i cannot live without them
ReplyDeleteIn my own opinion, as of now I would not sacrifice my life for a cause because as humans we learn to adapt to new and different situations. If someone came into my house and told me they were going to burn all of my technology, I'd be upset but I'd learn how to adapt.
ReplyDeleteIf someone was gonna kill everyone I love and take away my freedom then I guess I would rather die.
ReplyDeleteI think I would sacrifice my life for freedom. In my opinion a life where I have no freedom and am constantly being monitored is not a life worth living.
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ReplyDeletehonestly, I don't think any cause is really worth taking your life for. Unless it's something big like slavery where a whole race is at stake than yeah but if it's for something small like say football being banned because of the after career injuries than I don't think it's worth someone's life
I'm not sure if I have any "Cause" in my life that I would give up my life for at this exact moment. But hypothetically if someone came up to talking about taking something I strongly believe in I don't think I would be able to let that happen. Then again it'd have to be something pretty important.
ReplyDeleteOn pages 36-37,it says, "The fumes of kerosene bloomed up about her." This scene is showing a women die for her books. Why do you think she did this? Why were her books so important to her to make her commit this horrifying act? What does this symbolize and how do you think this will affect Montag in the long term?
ReplyDeleteI would personally be willing to give my life for my family and friends. I love them so much and if we were in any type of bad situation I would sacrifice myself for them.
ReplyDeleteDo you think the women that burned herself has a cause worth sacrificing herself for?
ReplyDeleteno not really because you can just go out somewhere and get some books you dont have to die for it
DeleteI think that it was worth it if all of the things they find enjoyment in are taken away then whats the quality of life for them.
DeleteShe wasn't just sacrificing herself for "books". They are burning the books to keep people from having complete freedom. She sacrificed herself because she didn't want to be controlled anymore.
DeleteI think the women that burned herself has a cause because while banned books may not be a big deal to one person, it may be to her.
DeleteYeah, I think she truly believed that she would rather prove a point for her opinion of the greater good than live out the rest of her life. She felt so strong about her cause that she accepted death.
DeleteI think her cause is th books. The woman decides to sacrifice herself for books in front of multiple fieman. I think her point in sacrificing herself is to show the firemen an example, and pique their curiosity about books. The woman burning herself drives Montag to start reading books, and try to quit his job. Her sacrifice drove him to think for himself, and I think that was the woman's point.
DeleteDo you think Captain Beatty truly believes he is doing the right thing?
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DeleteI think he believes he is doing the right thing because it is all he knows. He has believed books are bad his whole life, so he could never understand from a different perspective. Though he claims to have read a book, he takes it as nonsense.
DeleteI think he is committed to the government and playing this role of a sort of strict and hard core captain. But I think secretly he might want to read a book or he has maybe read a book in his past and misses it.
DeleteWhy do reading books make us different to a point where the books must be destroyed? (“They were given a new job as custodians of our peace of mind” (56))
ReplyDeleteI think Ray Bradbury wanted to make a point that books spark individual opinions and society can come to a point where individuality is frowned upon. It's not the actual content in the books we read that make them important, it's the individual thoughts and opinions they can provoke.
DeleteWhy do you think Montag felt so sick after learning that Clarisse is dead? Do you think that was the main reason he felt sick or do you think Montag is becoming more aware of how bad his job really is?
ReplyDeleteI think it is both because Clarisse helped him realize about his job.
DeleteI think Montag felt sick because she had helped him realize the truth about books and not to burn them.
DeleteI think Montag felt sick after learning Clarisse is dead because Clarisse was an innocent person. I know that I feel sick when someone is innocent and ends up dying. I think he also feels sick about Clarisse dying because they had developed a good friendship with her and she seemed to genuinely care about him.
DeleteI think that he felt sick because his job ended up killing someone and not just someone. Clarisse helped him realize about how is this society is terrible.
DeleteI think he felt sick because he didn't know how to feel about the situation. "'You've never been sick before.'"(46) Mildred was confused on his behavior claiming he's never been sick. I think he felt emptiness and started to question his career.
Deletehow long has montag been hiding books?
ReplyDeleteare the hidden books in the ventilator grill why they keep zooming in on it on pages 19 and 30 in the graphic novel version?
is montag hiding books why the mechanical hound tries to attack him?
ReplyDeleteI think montag was so confused about why that woman would be willing to give up their life for a book. Plus he's been kinda questioning his happiness and now he's kinda questioning his whole life
ReplyDeletei agree I think it surprised him and made him realize what he was actually doing and now he has to figure out where to go from there.
DeleteTo a Question that annie made about why Montag saved a book I think that he saved a book because the lady burned herself and that clarisse kind of influenced him to save the book.
ReplyDeleteWhat "role" do you think Mildred will have in the novel? Do you think she is going to protest reading books with Montag and try to steer him in a different direction, or support him and help along the way?
ReplyDeleteI think at first she is going to try to steer him in a different direction because of the dangers of it, and the possibility of loosing his job. However, I think eventually she will start to realize that books aren't the problem and start to support him.
Deletewill montag realize what he's doing is wrong?
ReplyDeleteHe already did
DeleteI think now that he has met a person like Mildred he understands more what he is doing and the negative impacts it has on people.
DeleteI think he will later on after he thinks it through and starts reading more and more. `He will realize how important books are.
DeleteIs Mildred going to rat out Montag for reading?
ReplyDeleteI feel like Mildred will not rat out Montag because there's some things you will do good or bad for family than you would for just a random stranger.
DeleteI think that eventually Mildred will get scared and she will try and rat Montag out. Fear does crazy things to people, as we learned when reading Macbeth. Mildred already tried to show Captain Beatty the book Montag had hidden under his couch, so she will most likley rat him out eventually.
DeleteWhat similar trends does Fahrenheit 451 have to other dystopian novels? On page 55, Beatty states "We must all be alike" why is this such a necessity for books like this?
ReplyDeleteMost dystopian novels show the society with no individuality and I think this is because people are most happiest when they can be themselves, and when you take that away, society becomes dystopian.
DeleteI think it is more to write about the main character and how they are going to be different, I think its setting everything up for a big entrance on a whole new person that's nothing like the other people from the dystopia.
DeleteI think the idea of "we must all be alike" in dystopian novels is required for dystopian books because dystopian books take place in a futuristic society. Our society today is pushing for equal rights and equal opportunities for everyone. Society tries to make everyone happy and prevent people from feeling hurt or upset when they find out they aren't the best. I that dystopian novels have to have the common theme that "we must all be alike" or that everyone is equal because that is where we are headed in the near future.
DeleteAre martyrs a effective way to get a point across? Or ignite rebelion?
ReplyDeleteI think that this kind of behavior will cause more of a ripple effect. Because it might touched one or two people and maybe those people will start to believe in the same cause and speak up.
DeleteHow do you think Montag reacted in his mind and how do you think he felt when the girl burned herself because she was standing up for something she loved which is books.
ReplyDeleteI think he realized he was no longer just burning paper but burning something that people are attached to and it sort of humanized it to him.
DeleteMaybe he started to realize what can happen, and even though you enjoy doing something there are still people that would sacrifice themselves for something you think they wouldn't sacrifice themselves for
DeleteI think Montag was very confused and conflicted when the girl burned herself. He was a man who burned books all the time, and to have someone burn themselves for books made him very curious. I think that's also why Montag started to read his secret book collection, he was wondering why someone would burn themselves for books and why they were so important.
DeleteI feel Montag has always been curious about the past world because he had books in his air duck before he took that one back from the old ladys house and he is finally beginning to take action to figure what had happened in the past.
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I agree. I think he wasn't that opposed to the things Clarisse was saying because he felt this way and always questioned the society.
DeleteI feel like Montag waits to read the books because he never really had a reason to start reading but when clarisse talks about to him about maybe reading a book and when she gets hit by a car and dies that finally puts him over the edge.
DeleteWhy is it that there's such a strong impact coming from Martyrs or people who die for a cause?
ReplyDeleteI think that it helps some people realize the importance of the cause to others. However, I think that contributing to the cause in another way will end up being more impactful.
DeleteIt's not sticking to the status quo. She is showing how she is different and that is very impactful for this society.
DeleteIt makes people stop and think. When somethings out of the ordinary, it grabs peoples attention. Just like how Kathy Change lit herself on fire to show how acts of violence solve nothing.
DeleteDoes the girl burning herself symbolize a bigger picture than it already does?
ReplyDeleteI think it does symbolize something bigger. It symbolizes the importance of books and freedom in general.
DeleteI agree I think it shows that people still can have impact over there government or whoever is enforcing that books cant be allowed.
DeleteI think it is easier for the characters in the book to sacrifice themselves for a cause or just to commit suicide in general because of the society they live in. They have a very bland and boring life which seems like they are living just to work. They have no hobbies and no point in life.
ReplyDeleteWhat is more important, blissfulness or knowledge and having critical thought?
ReplyDeleteI think blissfulness because you can still be happy and at peace if you don't have knowledge. I'd rather be joyful and have less knowledge than having more knowledge but sad and depressed.
DeleteI think knowledge is more important than being oblivious because just because some situations may be hard to handle and think about doesn't mean you shouldn't try and understand them.
DeleteI think knowledge is better because it allows room for more learning and adapting and with knowledge it would be easier to understand the way that people feel.
Delete"Fire is bright, fire is clean." Pg. 57
ReplyDeleteIn our Macbeth unit we were talking about how Lady Macbeth and Macbeth have a dirty conscious after murdering the King. Even though fire cannot feel guilt, is fire really "clean"? It burns books and people who believe that books should not be burned. Or is it more of the fireman who burn the books with the people who are considered "dirty"?
After they burned down the house and that lady died, Mildred said," You should've thought of that before becoming a fireman," then Montag says, "was i given a choice my grandfather and father were firemen." would the story be differant if Montag wasn't a fireman?
ReplyDeleteI think there would not be a story if he wasn't a fireman. It sets up the controversy of reading books from an inside perspective.
DeleteI think this story is about Montag realizing the purpose of his freedom and reading books. I think in order to realize this, he has to be a fireman. If he weren't a fireman, there wouldn't be much of a story.
DeleteAt the beginning of the book when Montag first met Clarisse, he laughed at everything that she said. He was happy. Then he started to question her, and why she was so happy. He realized that he was missing out. What you don't know can not hurt you, and that is somewhat what this novel's society is based off of.
ReplyDeleteIn the graphic novel version of this book, a lot of the scenes zoom in on air ducts. Montag is hiding his books in his air ducts. I think that the graphic novel is trying to foreshadow or show that almost everyone in this society has books hidden in their air ducts, or somewhere else throughout their houses.
ReplyDeleteThis is a good interpretation. I didn't think about this.
DeleteOn page 4 of the graphic novel, Charles Darwin's book On the Origin of Species is added to a burning pile and then later in the story Montag reads the Bible. Why where these books specifically included by Tim Hamilton and Ray Bradbury?
ReplyDeleteI think the authors included these books because they are both books that have ideas of religion or science. They want to get the point across that the government doesn't want the citizens to have this knowledge or ideas.
DeleteI think that these books were specifically included because just a few decades earlier there was the big monkey trial when a teacher got tried for teaching evolution. I think this was also included because back in the day and even today science vs the bible is still a very big controversial issue.
DeleteI think it was just to emphasize on how much information that society is missing out on since those books are very important to todays society.
DeleteOn page 50, Captain Beatty says "Just thought I'd come by and see how the sick man is." Do you think there is more to why Beatty came and saw Montag. Do you think Beatty is suspicious of Montag questioning his job?
ReplyDeleteSince there is a rulebook for firemen and Mildred has a script to read, it means that not all books have been banned. My theory is that only anti governmental books are banned.
ReplyDeleteI feel like anything books and show wise that goes against what the government wants people to know is banned.
DeleteI think that all books that are controversial are banned which is basically almost every book. The books that weren't banned were instruction books which is not biased at all, it's just fact. And Mildred's script is also kind of like an instruction book because it's telling her what to say.
DeleteThe name "Clarisse" means "bright, shining, and gentle; famous." Why do you think Bradbury gave this name to this character?
ReplyDeleteClarisse has been a beacon of light for Montag throughout the book and he has realized so many things about the world he lives in because of that. She has brought a lot of light into his life and has made him see many of the flaws in his society.
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